First Love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Nathan Kassas and Dr. Robyn Kassas bring their Pool of Bethesda series to a close. From John 5 they show that many entered the water yet were not healed—healing is ultimately about identity, not activity. Jesus did not wait for the water; He is the One who created and moves upon it. The man had to grow weary of the mat that had become his security blanket, then rise and walk in active faith. The hosts unpack neuroplasticity: renewing the mind is not receiving a new idea but deconstructing old pathways and repeatedly practicing agreement with truth until a new way becomes natural. Instant healing still required learning to walk; the testimony is not merely the old life dying but what Christ builds where it once lived. This is also their final Monday-night broadcast as they move to a new daily timeslot.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Pool of Bethesda Conclusion, Identity vs. Activity, Security of the Mat, Active Faith & Walking, Neuroplasticity, Renewing the Mind, Testimony as What Christ Builds, Schedule Transition

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their Gates of Jerusalem series (Nehemiah 3), remaining at the Pool of Bethesda near the Sheep Gate. From John 5 they examine the man infirm for 38 years whose hope rested in stirred water, human help, and being first. Jesus does not compete with the man’s coping systems or place him in the pool; He confronts the identity formed around the condition and commands, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” The hosts unpack autopilot compensation, the safety of familiar dysfunction, responsibility as the ability to respond, and the call to carry what once carried you—recognizing not the stirring of the water but the One who created it and now stands before it.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Gates of Jerusalem Series, Pool of Bethesda, John 5, Stirring of the Waters, Identity Confrontation, Autopilot & Coping Mechanisms, Rise–Take–Walk, Responsibility as Ability to Respond, New Identity in Christ

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their series on the gates of Jerusalem (Nehemiah 3), focusing on the Sheep Gate as the place of surrendering the old life and the adjacent Pool of Bethesda as the necessary place of healing. They challenge the “get saved and serve” model, insisting healing must precede ministry so broken people do not wound others. Drawing from John 5, the five porches of grace, the man who waited 38 years, Psalm 23, and the bitter waters of Marah, they show that God must stir still waters to restore the soul. Believers often develop an identity around stagnation and protect the analysis of their pain instead of participating; true becoming is an ongoing process that requires surrendering both the condition and the story told about it.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Gates of Jerusalem Series, Sheep Gate & Sacrifice, Pool of Bethesda Healing, Five Porches of Grace, Stirring the Waters, Surrender Before Service, Analysis Paralysis, Ongoing Becoming & Transformation

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their series on the gates of Jerusalem (Nehemiah 3), focusing on the Sheep Gate as the vital first conversation with God. They correct the common misunderstanding of 2 Corinthians 5:17, explaining that we are not instantly “become new” but are continually becoming new—an ongoing process of transformation (present tense in the Greek).

The Sheep Gate represents surrender and sacrifice of the old life, leading to the Pool of Bethesda (House of Mercy) for healing the lingering effects of the old nature. Drawing on Psalm 23, neuroscience (neuroplasticity and renewing the mind), and the story in John 5, they emphasize that the Shepherd leads us beside still waters that must be stirred for restoration. True healing requires full surrender; God does not leave us empty but fills and restores us progressively through relationship.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Gates of Jerusalem Series, Sheep Gate & Sacrifice, Becoming New, Pool of Bethesda Healing, Shepherd Leads, Surrender Before Healing, Ongoing Sanctification & Transformation

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their series on the gates of Jerusalem from Nehemiah 3, finalizing the teaching on the Sheep Gate as the essential first conversation with God. They expose how believers often remove or skip these gates—just as Suleiman the Great did historically—because the Western gospel teaches that “all things have become new” instantly, allowing us to bypass the process. Drawing from 2 Corinthians 5:17, they clarify that we are not instantly “become new,” but are continually “becoming new” in quality as we live daily in Christ through the Lamb of God. The Sheep Gate reveals that entering God’s kingdom begins with sacrifice and allowing Jesus to come into us, not merely receiving Him from a distance; priesthood and true transformation start with the Lamb, not kingship or arrival. They show how this ongoing process of becoming restores hope and second chances, while warning that thinking we have already “arrived” causes us to stop needing relationship and stops our growth. This message calls listeners to stop skipping the conversations the Holy Spirit is highlighting and to walk through the Sheep Gate into the daily journey of becoming the finished work in Christ.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: The Gates of Jerusalem Series (Nehemiah 3), The Sheep Gate – Conversation of Sacrifice, Becoming New vs. Become New (2 Corinthians 5:17), Walking Through the Gate vs. Standing Outside, Western Mindset of Skipping Process, Suleiman the Great & Removed Gates Parallel, Priesthood Begins with Sacrifice Not Kingship, Being “In Christ” Through the Lamb of God, The Ongoing Process of Transformation & Daily Becoming, Hope, Second Chances & Training for Reigning, Eden – Fellowship Restored Through Sacrifice, When We Think We’ve Arrived We Stop Growing, Living in the Finished Work, Ambassadors of Reconciliation, From First Love to Mature Love Through Process

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas launch their powerful new series on the 15 Gates of Jerusalem, beginning with the first gate—the Sheep Gate—as the essential transition into transformation. They teach on the vital difference between standing at the gate with information about Jesus and actually walking through Him into intimate, vulnerable relationship. Drawing from the historical and prophetic significance of the Sheep Gate, where sacrificial lambs entered near the Temple from the fields of Bethlehem, they reveal Jesus as the Lamb of God who calls believers to lay aside defensive “lion” natures, self-preservation, personal agendas, opinions, and character flaws. This transformative message explains why transition must precede transformation: every meaningful change requires passing through new thresholds as the survival brain is confronted with the call to surrender and become a living sacrifice. Grace always goes first—it is not what we offer God but receiving what He has already offered in the worthy Lamb. The cross is the door that moves us beyond religious performance, masks, and defense mechanisms into formation, trust, participation, identity change, and heart-level living. They call listeners to stop merely admiring the gate and instead walk through it, allowing the Holy Spirit to confront old nature and character so that first love can mature into full transformation with the One who is real, relevant, and relational.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: The 15 Gates of Jerusalem Series Launch, The Sheep Gate – Transition to Transformation, Jesus the Lamb of God vs. the Lion Nature, Surrender & Living Sacrifice, Walking Through the Gate vs. Observing From Outside, Grace Precedes Transformation, Defense Mechanisms, Self-Preservation & Character Flaws, Thresholds & Neural Pathways for Change, Intimacy Through Entrance Not Information, From First Love to Mature Love & Christ Formation, Real Relevant and Relational Jesus

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach on the vital difference between knowing about God and Christianity versus truly knowing the real Jesus — and being fully known by Him. They explain why so many believers possess information about God yet lack the intimate relationship where Jesus touches the hidden, reserved places of the heart. Drawing from the humanity of Jesus who laid aside the full expression of His deity to walk as a man among us, and from Matthew 7:23 where He declares “I never knew you,” they reveal how the cross is not simply the forgiveness of sins but the door into a transformative journey — the first work of grace that opens the way to the second work of the Holy Spirit. This powerful teaching exposes the danger of living from religious information, performance, defense mechanisms, and masks instead of vulnerable, unfiltered relationship, and calls believers to stop merely admiring the door and instead walk through it into full transformation. They unpack how Jesus always initiates relationship, how true knowing produces formation, trust, participation, identity change, and heart living, and how God’s new mercies every morning — even neurologically offering 30,000 fresh chances daily through the brain’s rewiring — invite us into deeper maturity with the One who is real, relevant, and relational for New York City, America, and the world.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Intimacy With Jesus vs Knowing About Him, Matthew 7:23 “I Never Knew You”, Jesus the Door (Dalit), First Work of Grace vs Second Work of Grace, Come As You Are But Leave As I Am, Relationship vs Information and Religion, Defense Mechanisms and Masks, New Mercies Every Morning & Brain Rewiring, Jesus Initiates Relationship, Vertical and Horizontal Cross, Real Relevant and Relational Jesus for NYC and America, From First Love to Mature Transformation

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach on the kingdom principle of one accord. They explain why true agreement must begin with heaven first — not with personal understanding or selfish desires. Drawing from the humanity of Jesus, who laid aside the full expression of His deity to stay in perfect agreement with the Father’s will, they reveal how self-agreement creates dangerous neural pathways that strengthen wrong expectations, dull spiritual senses, and turn desires into idols. This powerful teaching exposes the misuse of Scripture (such as Matthew 18) and calls believers to stop trying to get God to agree with them and instead align with what heaven is saying.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: One Accord, Agree First Then Understand, Kingdom vs Worldly Agreement, Jesus’ Humanity Agreeing with the Father, Self-Agreement & Neural Pathways, The Danger of “Touch and Go” Agreement, Misuse of Matthew 18, Agreeing with Heaven Not Creations, Heart Mouth and Mind in Congruence, Handling Scripture Legally, Lucifer’s Fall as a Warning, Paying the Price for Wrong Agreement

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach that real and relevant connection with Jesus leads to authentic relationship through everyday conversation and listening—tuning our inner ear to the Holy Spirit’s constant flow, surrendering our opinions, and becoming a bending reed moved by His wind rather than competing with our own voice.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Real, Relevant & Relational, Everyday Communication & Conversation, Listening Before Speaking, Inner Ear & Holy Spirit Flow, Surrendering Opinions, Bending Reed, Conversational Narcissism, Jesus as the Man Building Relationship, Selective Attention

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas unpack the “Hour of Relevance,” showing how Jesus’ humanity connects to our everyday lives when His grace is received not merely as a cover for sin but as divine enablement that actively transforms our personality, character, and temperament—moving us from denial and license to genuine change, obedience, and Christlike formation.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Hour of Relevance, Grace as Divine Power for Change, Grace vs. License, Personality/Character/Temperament, Filtering & the Inner Ear, Holy Spirit as Net, Repentance & Transformation, Grace & Truth, Relevance Through Surrender

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas conclude by affirming that Jesus’ humanity is not a weakness but the very means through which God expresses His divine nature, and that allowing Jesus to fully inhabit our humanity completes both His expression and our transformation.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Humanity as Divine Expression, Jesus Felt Full Human Range, No Defense Mechanism in Jesus, Allowing Jesus to Inhabit Our Humanity, Completion Through Surrender, Real Jesus in Everyday Life

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas explore what it means for Jesus to be fully man, showing that He experienced the full range of human emotion and limitation yet never let feeling become lord, so that He could fully express His nature through our surrendered humanity.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Fully God Fully Man, Jesus Experienced Human Emotion, Vulnerability of Jesus, Humanity as Gift Not Curse, Expression Through Surrendered Humanity, No Defense in Jesus

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas introduce Jesus as real, relevant, and relational, moving beyond roles and authority to present Him as the living Person who wants to be known in everyday humanity and relationship.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Jesus Real Relevant Relational, Beyond Roles and Authority, Humanity of Jesus, Connection Over Information, Everyday Relationship, First Love as a Person

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas emphasize that God’s story can only be authored and fulfilled in the name of Jesus, and that surrendering authority to Him (rather than trying to control the narrative ourselves) is what releases true transformation and alignment with the Father’s will.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: The Name of Jesus, Authority and Authorship, Surrendering Control, Jesus as the Author, Top-Down Story, Alignment Over Control

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas reach the tipping point of the series, declaring that transformation is not merely a process but a Person — Jesus Christ — and that true change happens as we behold Him and allow Him to live His life through us.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Transformation is a Person, Beholding Jesus, Not Just Process but Person, Christ in Us the Hope of Glory, From Periphery to Center, Jesus as the Transforming Agent

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach that God’s story must be owned from the moment of conception (not just birth or later), and that going back to reclaim moments where we limited God allows us to move forward into the full legacy He intended.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Conception vs Birth, Owning the Moment from the Start, Reclaiming Lost Moments, Joseph’s Example, Letting God Own the Narrative, Back to Go Forward

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas begin unpacking transformation by showing that it starts with identifying and removing dysfunction (not just treating symptoms or disease), because we were created optimally and dysfunction was introduced later through sin and trauma.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Transformation Begins with Dysfunction, Remove the Obstacle, Optimal Design, Introduced Dysfunction, Leaven as Inflammation, Systems Thinking vs Symptom Management

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue on sacred tension, teaching that limitations and tension are tools God uses to direct, inspect, correct, protect, and perfect us so that we learn to let Him create the moment instead of trying to manufacture it ourselves.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Sacred Tension, Limitations as Tools of God, Directing, Inspecting, Correcting, Protecting, Perfecting, Letting God Create the Moment

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas explore the sacred tension between trauma and transformation, showing that tension is not punishment but the necessary stretching that grinds down our will and prepares us for God to create the moment of healing.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Sacred Tension, Tension as Training, Grinding Down the Will, Default Mode Network Interruption, Tension Between Trauma and Transformation, God Creating the Moment

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach that we cannot truly trust God until we have trusted Him with our trauma, and that God wants to create the moment (not just own the moment after the fact) so that healing and transformation can occur in His timing and way.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Trauma Integration, Giving Trauma an Address, God Creating the Moment, Sympathy vs Empathy, Integration Before Revelation, Trust After Trauma Processing

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love