First Love Ep. 76 - The Great Descent, From I Can to Your Will
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Wednesday, September 23, 2026
Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue through the Valley Gate, looking at the physiology of the valley and how Jesus experienced it in Gethsemane. They describe the body's fight-or-flight response and say these signals are symptoms to process in God's presence, not proof of a threat. They explain that Jesus asked why in the right way and stayed connected to the Father. They present the pattern of going down to come up, moving from the valley of dependence to "not my will, but Yours," and challenge the teaching that Jesus died spiritually, citing Psalm 22. They also compare the wilderness temptations and the cross to the question of self-preservation, and say sonship can kneel because identity is settled while insecurity needs elevation.
Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas
Topics Covered: Valley Gate, Physiology of the Valley, Fight or Flight, Processing Through God's Presence, Gethsemane, Descent Before Ascent, Valley of Dependence, Jesus Died Spiritually Doctrine, Self-Preservation vs. Sonship
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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.
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