First Love

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas reflect on the season casting conference and the upcoming documentary The Purim Cycle, then continue through the Valley Gate with David and Goliath in 1 Samuel 17. They explain that David did not let Goliath reveal anything he had not already encountered with the Lord, connecting this to rehearsal, the Hebrew word for convocation in Leviticus 23, and the feasts as rehearsals. Israel saw a threat and feared, while David remembered the lion and the bear. They say the brain's prediction can serve God's glory, that David was formed in the valley and crowned in the palace, and that what we conquer privately prepares us for what we confront publicly.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Valley Gate, David and Goliath, 1 Samuel 17, Rehearsal Before the Call, Convocation in Leviticus 23, Threat Versus Remembrance, The Lion and the Bear, Brain Prediction, Formed in the Valley

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their teaching on stress and the valley test by looking at biblical figures, beginning with Joseph. They offer a buffet analogy for taking in one thing at a time, and ask whether ancient truth went deep or was choked by the cares of this world. They walk through Joseph's valley from the pit to slavery, Potiphar's wife, and prison, noting his integrity in Genesis 39 as he reaches for his relationship with God. They also point out his later reaction with the request to be remembered, and later his response to his brothers. They conclude that repetition is preparation so you walk in rather than stumble in.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Stress Test of Biblical Figures, Joseph in Genesis 39, Integrity Under Pressure, Respond vs. React, Time Testing the Heart, Trusted With Power, Repetition as Preparation, Walk In Not Stumble In

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas return to the descent into the valley, asking whether God called you up or down. They explain that God takes you down the mountain to test what you have been given, mainly through resistance and stress. Using a cardiac stress test as an illustration, they show how pressure reveals what the heart cannot sustain, and they discuss how being stressed can become a coping mechanism. They introduce an acronym for stress: situation, trigger, response or reaction, exposure, selection, and strengthening. A family story about an audition illustrates responding rather than reacting. They also reframe repetition as another chance to hear God rather than judgment.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Descent Into the Valley, Called Up or Called Down, Resistance, Stress Test of the Heart, Stress as Coping Mechanism, Situation Trigger Response Exposure, Respond vs. React, Repetition as Another Chance

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue the mountain and valley series, cautioning against conference culture and chasing glory from peak to peak. They ask whether an experience changes how you treat people afterward. Referencing Psalm 23, they show how truth carried from the mountain shifts a response from panic to presence. Using the hippocampus, they explain that revelation must become memory. They also stress that the mountain is never for feeling superior, that Moses climbed empty-handed and returned with something for the nation, and that commandments must become commitments, covenants, and culture. They close by contrasting kairos and chronos, and by noting that water flows down into the valley to nourish.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Conference Culture, Glory Chasers, Psalm 23 Presence, Revelation Becomes Memory, Humility Over Superiority, Commandments as Culture, Kairos and Chronos, Water Flows to the Valley

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their mountain and valley series with Moses. They explain why the first tablets were broken and how the law could not sustain without the Spirit. They describe the mountain as concentrated encounter and the valley as integrated embodiment, adding that elevation increases responsibility rather than making anyone superior. Drawing on neuroscience, they discuss limited attentional resource, competing sensory input, and cognitive reappraisal, and note that what feels like a new revelation is often an ancient truth repeated until it is lived. They also cover acclimatizing to higher altitude as a picture of character formation, and ask whether the mountain is meant to separate you so you can serve the crowd.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Mountain vs. Valley Continued, Broken Tablets, Concentrated Encounter, Integrated Embodiment, Responsibility Not Superiority, Attention and Neuroscience, Ancient Truth Repeated, Altitude and Character

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas ease back in after their annual Season Casting conference, recalling the weekend's prophetic presentations and the word for the year of Zion. They then open a new teaching on the difference between the mountain and the valley. The mountain gives perspective, while the valley shows where you are and lets God regulate what was revealed. Using Moses in Exodus 32, they explain that revelation on the mountain must be implemented in the valley, where dysfunction continues until it is governed. They discuss how stress narrows attention toward threats, why neither place is a permanent dwelling, and how thin mountain air illustrates carrying responsibility. Obedience, they say, is sometimes come up higher and sometimes get down.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Season Casting Conference Recap, Mountain vs. Valley, Regulation and Integration, Moses in Exodus 32, Stress and Narrow Focus, Implementing Revelation, Living at Altitude, Obedience to Where God Calls

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue through the Valley Gate while announcing that Season Casting begins that night at Times of Refreshing Christian Center in Manhattan. They contrast the Tower of Babel, where man ascends to make a name, with Jesus, who descends and is given the name above all names. They explain that independence can look successful and even godly, and that capacity is not permission, with a personal testimony of giving a choice back to God. They unpack the biology of independence and the brain's drive for prediction and control, and describe independence as making your ability your source and as the original sin. They close with an acronym for down and the wilderness Israelites, and note that Jesus depended fully on the Father.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Valley Gate, Season Casting Announcement, Tower of Babel vs. Jesus' Descent, Spirit of Independence, Capacity vs. Permission, Biology of Independence, Prediction and Control, Dependence vs. Self-Sufficiency, Israel in the Wilderness

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their Valley Gate teaching, revisiting the "Jesus died spiritually" doctrine and showing that Jesus never manufactured His own ascent but waited for the Father to raise Him. They trace the downward path in Philippians 2 and say the valley reveals whether we can live from our identity when our environment stops affirming it. They discuss Jesus entering sorrow without letting it become His identity, and how the valley exposes our response to provision as well as pain. They speak about maturity, the danger of self-promotion, and the mountain versus the valley. They also explain that stress is meant to be balanced and handled, that "no thing" apart from Christ can be done, and that the cross stands beside resurrection.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Valley Gate, Jesus Died Spiritually Doctrine, Not Manufacturing Ascent, Philippians 2 Descent, Sorrow Without Identity, Response to Provision, Maturity in the Valley, Dependence and Abiding, Stress and Balance

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue through the Valley Gate, looking at the physiology of the valley and how Jesus experienced it in Gethsemane. They describe the body's fight-or-flight response and say these signals are symptoms to process in God's presence, not proof of a threat. They explain that Jesus asked why in the right way and stayed connected to the Father. They present the pattern of going down to come up, moving from the valley of dependence to "not my will, but Yours," and challenge the teaching that Jesus died spiritually, citing Psalm 22. They also compare the wilderness temptations and the cross to the question of self-preservation, and say sonship can kneel because identity is settled while insecurity needs elevation.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Valley Gate, Physiology of the Valley, Fight or Flight, Processing Through God's Presence, Gethsemane, Descent Before Ascent, Valley of Dependence, Jesus Died Spiritually Doctrine, Self-Preservation vs. Sonship

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue through the Valley Gate, explaining how pressure exposes the automatic brain and reveals what we have truly been feeding on. They ask whether God can trust us with His silence, using marriage as an example of silent intimacy. They point out that Jesus received only three public affirmations from the Father and never lost His first love. They say silence is connection, not rejection, and that belief lives in the heart while what we rehearse shapes our automatic responses. They walk through how the hippocampus, amygdala, insula, anterior cingulate cortex, prefrontal cortex and basal ganglia react to pressure. They also stress asking God why, tied to Jeremiah 1:5, as the question that exposes the schema and returns us to His original plan.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Valley Gate, The Automatic Brain, Pressure Reveals Patterns, Trusting God's Silence, Silent Intimacy, Jesus and the Father's Three Affirmations, Neuroscience of Stress, The Power of Why, Schema vs. Purpose

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas introduce the Valley Gate, the next gate of Jerusalem in their series through Nehemiah's rebuilding. They explain that the valley is a passage, not an identity, and that it is a place of inspection where God's Spirit goes low enough to see what is broken. Using Nehemiah 2 and 3 and Psalm 23, they note that a shadow implies light and that what God inspects in one season He rebuilds for His glory in another. They compare the valley to a diagnostic room, like an X-ray that finds the root of a break, and say a low environment does not mean a low identity. They also discuss the cause as the key, inward schemas, moving from reaction to response, and looking down from a seated position in Christ.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: The Valley Gate, Valley as Passage Not Identity, Nehemiah's Inspection, Psalm 23 Shadow of Death, Diagnostic Room, Low Environment vs. Low Identity, Finding the Cause, Schemas, Reaction vs. Response

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas conclude the Old Gate and introduce the Valley Gate from Nehemiah, where the movement is downward, not backward. They preview Season Casting 2027, the Hebraic year of Zion, and speak about trauma being stored in the body. Reading Nehemiah 2:13, they describe the Valley Gate as the gate of inspection: has the truth recovered at the Old Gate taken root, and can it be tested in low places? They preview upcoming teaching on the seven valleys, mountains versus valleys, and how the valley exposes coping mechanisms, which they say numb rather than heal. They note that a Sunday message will cover moving from schema to rhema. They close with Psalm 23: we walk through the valley, not live in it.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Old Gate Conclusion, Valley Gate Introduction, Season Casting 2027, Year of Zion, Trauma and the Body, Nehemiah 2 Inspection, Valleys vs. Mountains, Coping Mechanisms

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas complete their list of schema and rhema markers. They start with the peace marker, contrasting the peace of God with temporary relief, which comes when a threat is removed, and pointing to Philippians 4 and Jesus asleep in the boat. Next is the humility marker, using Peter's protest in Matthew 16 to show how a schema makes us unteachable. The love marker follows, with 1 Corinthians 13 and John 13:35: a rhema never produces cruelty, pride, or suspicion. Then comes the identity marker, using Jeremiah 1:5, 2 Corinthians 5:17, and Gideon's false humility. The outcome marker, with Mary's surrender, contrasts obedience with self-protection. A schema says my past has spoken; a rhema says God said, and it brings the old interpretation under the authority of God's Word.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Peace vs. Relief, Peace With God and Peace of God, Humility Marker, Peter's Protest, Love Marker, Identity Marker, Gideon and False Humility, Outcome Marker

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue identifying markers that separate a rhema from a schema, beginning with the control marker: does this require manipulation, deception, or pressure to make it happen? They discuss how a trigger activates a schema, how Saul dressed up disobedience in spiritual language, and how James 3:17 describes wisdom as willing to yield. They share the practice of inviting Jesus into their own self-talk, and connect it to Adam and Eve's imagination being opened. Next comes the testing marker: what God blesses, He tests. Citing 1 John 4:1, Proverbs, and Peter's vision at Simon the Tanner's house, they explain why a multitude of counselors matters and why no one has every gift, since a schema claims to have every answer while a rhema is willing to yield.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Control Marker, Manipulation and Maneuvering, Triggers and Schemas, Inviting the Lord Into Self-Talk, Testing Marker, Multitude of Counselors, Peter at Simon the Tanner's House, Gifts Are Distributed

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their schema and rhema markers with the scripture marker and the fruit marker. A true rhema never contradicts the inspired written Word, and they contrast discernment with debate, pointing to Jesus answering the tempter with what is written. They discuss context over isolated verses, and they affirm that God's truth and love do not change. The fruit marker sets the fruits of the Spirit against the fruits of a schema: urgency, suspicion, accusation, control, secrecy, self-protection, and emotional certainty without humility. Citing James and John's request to call down fire, they warn against using spiritual language to justify retaliation or superiority. They close by noting the enemy wants us rehearsing the past, and by describing the double-edged blade of logos and rhema.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Scripture Marker, Discernment vs. Debate, Jesus and the Temptation, Fruit Marker, Fruits of the Spirit vs. Fruits of a Schema, Urgency and Suspicion, Self-Protection, Logos and Rhema

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas close out their look at the Old Gate and introduce the first of several markers for telling a schema from a rhema. They recall that Paul's word in Romans 12 for being conformed shares its root with schema, and that the gates of Nehemiah represent conversations in the believer's journey, with the Valley Gate coming next. The first marker is the source: did this begin in fear or in God? God does not birth anything through fear, and a schema feels powerful because it is familiar. Using 2 Timothy 1:7 and the story of Saul, who let a word about David become a schema through fear of being replaced, they show why we must examine the fruit. They preview the scripture marker for the next episode.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Schema vs. Rhema Markers, Romans 12 and Schema, Gates as Conversations, The Source Marker, Fear vs. Reverence, 2 Timothy 1:7, Saul and David, Valley Gate Preview

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their First Love.