First Love Ep. 69 - From Schema to Rhema, What is the Source
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Monday, September 14, 2026
Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas close out their look at the Old Gate and introduce the first of several markers for telling a schema from a rhema. They recall that Paul's word in Romans 12 for being conformed shares its root with schema, and that the gates of Nehemiah represent conversations in the believer's journey, with the Valley Gate coming next. The first marker is the source: did this begin in fear or in God? God does not birth anything through fear, and a schema feels powerful because it is familiar. Using 2 Timothy 1:7 and the story of Saul, who let a word about David become a schema through fear of being replaced, they show why we must examine the fruit. They preview the scripture marker for the next episode.
Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas
Topics Covered: Schema vs. Rhema Markers, Romans 12 and Schema, Gates as Conversations, The Source Marker, Fear vs. Reverence, 2 Timothy 1:7, Saul and David, Valley Gate Preview
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